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Transcript for #agchat June 23, 2009
Submitted by Truffle Media N... on June 23, 2009 - 4:11pm.
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Results for #agchat since:2009-06-22 until:2009-06-24
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agchat: @spcochenour #AgChat is avail for all tweeps in biz of food, fuel, feed or fiber. We welcome different viewpoints & professional convo. -
spcochenour: @JeffFowle I understand. But do you think that the #agchat is really trying to find trust across the isle or is it just to defend their side -
mpaynknoper: If you're looking for archives of last night's #agchat, use search.twitter.com and enter in hashtag. #farm -
JeffFowle: @spcochenour We are accustomed to being hit with tainted science, misinformation and exaggeration, welcome intelligent conversation #agchat
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JeffFowle: @spcochenour Until that trust and understanding is mutual, civil discussion and sharing info is definitely a step in right direction #agchat
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JeffFowle: @spcochenour Your observation is accurate. Remember, we in ag have been "burned" in the past. It takes time to "earn" our trust. #agchat
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derekbalsley: For those interested in #foodinc - check this out... The real green revolution! http://bit.ly/7jwQB (expand) #agchat #food #farm #ag -
JeffFowle: @spcochenour Disagreement hinges on the method and the entity 2 solve and realizing that issues not as prevalent as portrayed #agchat
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JeffFowle: @spcochenour All of us in ag know there are issues that need to be addressed. #agchat
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JeffFowle: @purplemartinart Yes, we have 6 martin homes up around the house, all occupied, along with several finch, robin and blue bird homes #agchat -
mpaynknoper: Just looked up last night's #agchat stats - more than 1100 tweets from 118 contributors. Great convo on #foodinc & misconceptions of #ag.
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spcochenour: RT@jambutter Observation #1 from last night's #agchat: No one was willing to admit there are any downsides to today's primary food system.
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RobertKenner: @agchat Sorry I missed the #agchat last night but look forward to speaking with you tomorrow http://bit.ly/yRidG (expand) #foodinc -
KyFarmersMatter: Good Post! Perhaps we should all follow that lead? RT: @mpaynknoper http://bit.ly/KAdlB (expand) #agchat Thank you for that.. -
mpaynknoper: Transparency for those who want to know how much I believe in #ag, why I speak & who my clients really are http://bit.ly/KAdlB (expand) #agchat
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AgLineNews: Most polluted ecosystems recoverable . AgLineNews . http://bit.ly/jnjr0 (expand) . #Farm #food #agchat #foodchat #media #foodies #biotechnology -
whitwallace: @harringjohn I can relate! Searching #agchat will take you to some of the discussion. Looking forward to your tweets and POV! -
mpaynknoper: Dealing with #agchat "hangover" this a.m.; can never get my brain shut down til after midnight following these convos, so slow start in a.m.
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ranchwabble: Americans taking #farm jobs http://bit.ly/tSxLy (expand) #agchat via http://twib.es/7Q7 -
akleinschmidt: @mpaynknoper During last night's #agchat (which I'm very sorry I missed) did you ask how many people have actually seen #foodinc? -
Jambutter: @derekbalsley Where did I say #FoodInc teaches consumers about "farming"? Did say knowledge about space b/n farmers & consumers. #agchat -
MidwestLabs: http://bit.ly/9hiW7 (expand) Twitter and Agriculture - Join the Conversation #fb #agchat -
spcochenour: reading though the transcripts from last nights #agchat Interesting thoughts, but feels like just tossing rocks over walls. no real convo's
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Jambutter: @derekbalsley Can U provide profile of #agchat participants, since many NOT farmers. Many interests represented (Cargill, Monsanto, etc.).
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derekbalsley: @Jambutter says that last night's #agchat taught him farmers think #foodinc increases consumer knowledge [of farming]. Simply untrue.
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lisaannallan: RT ... last night's #agchat: No one was willing to admit there are any downsides to today's primary food system. Really? (via @Jambutter) -
narthur: #agchat - Presentation by Johnsonville's Dan Sutherland on meeting changing consumer preferences - http://bit.ly/JXMzj (expand) -
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Top10ProduceLLC: Would like to see more Farm tours like this! http://bit.ly/waLor (expand) #farm #agchat #farming #pr #local -
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz If someone's raw milk gave you Hep A, it wouldn't be enough to know that you wouldn't buy their prod. again. #agchat -
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance if they're accountable to ME that's a whole lot more personal than the gov't #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz It's like in sports when someone gets in trouble and it reflects poorly on the team. #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz The big issue there is that you really want to buy food from someone that is accountable to someone for safety /quality #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: if they want something different - ie. assurance their standards, not the gov't, is followed? #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: so why not let individuals have a CHOICE? why is that so threatening? why does the government HAVE to approve an individual's food #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: unsafe here - never said anything like it - but equally private/small places also produce safe food which many consumers want 2buy #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: I'm talking US to US gov - just because it's not US govt approved doesn't mean it's from a 3rd world country - and never said it was #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz It doesn't mean it CAN"T be safe, it means that there are no guidelines or consumer protections for safety. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: do that every day and are healthy #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz I said, go try the food in other countries to compare safety. We have the safest food supply in the world. Bar none. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: can't possibly have an individual produce a clean food supply if it's not according to gov't rules - even though thousands of people #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Truth is, buying from an unregulated source is dangerous, and not nearly as safe as a regulated source. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: the only one who said all or nothing was you - buy it from regs or go to another country #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: and if an animal is tested clean of TB there is no TB in milk to get #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance if the only way to get it is through the gov't and your regulations then what choice/alternative is there? #agchat
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samvance: @nel1jack http://bit.ly/37ciS (expand) It's a bacteria that pasteurization normally kills. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: buy milk from a cow with no medication in her system vs that bulk tank tht had drugs in it which one am I assured has NONE - the 1 #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance no are you? you're saying a little bit is ok for someone who wants NONE - and again - if I to go a private farmer & #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz "Forced to eat"?? Nobody is forced to eat anything. #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Nothing is 100% Are you saying it's all or nothing? Are you high? #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: want to be forced to eat some and told 'it's ok' - they want NONE #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: no that's just the first that came up - but point is low is not no- minimum level is not none - those who want to choose NONE don't #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: it seems the only consumer that matters is the one who buys at the store and believes the gov't will protect them; gov't can't #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Wow, you had to go 7 yrs to find 1 ex of a company that used a flavoring on it's fries. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: people also have the right and responsibility to choose for ourselves - but the gov't wants to eliminate that choice and you defend #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/06/05/national/main511109.shtml $10million - where were gov't regs there for mislabelling #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: true choice is not gov't or buy from another country! #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: the consumer choice doesn't matter - I'm a consumer too and along with many consumers want to maintain choice in food decisions #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: other producers right here why force to buy out of the country "our way or the highway" mentality will cause consumer uprising #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance I suggest the gov't allow choice of our food decisions right here in the USA - if I choose to buy from @gilmerdairy or #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz The consumer does matter!! Why the hell do you think we have all these regs? #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: vegetarian vs non - low amount of animal products is not none #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: if someone's personal belief is not eating pork then it's 0 - I believe a fast food restaurant was sued a few years ago for limits #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz You hit the nail on the head. This is about your issues with the gov. I suggest you try the food in other countries. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: see I take that as the consumer doesn't matter - shut up and take what we say...and from an ag standpoint - well many judge all ag #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: it is mistrust of gov't that drives much - more food safety issues all the time because gov't cannot and will not catch all #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: not scaring anyone - trying to preserve my CHOICE to have 0 - not the gov't mandate that 1 is ok #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance no this is the choice to go find out and if it's flat then so be it - #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: put another way - if instead of the aspirin it was antifreeze - diluted to an acceptable level #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: if someone's personal limit is 0 and the governments is 1 then why should the government make someone accept 1? #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Yes. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: no it won't-but if someone is against taking aspirin and you tell them there's no aspirin in that 1000 gallons of water is it honest #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: because regulations passed says it's unsafe even though it was cleaner than USDA standards - because it's not done their way #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance I just can't use it or legally sell it or give it to someone else without being accused of contaminating the food system #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Something not being grade A doesn't mean it isn't fit to drink. #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Actually I didn't. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: no chemical, bacterial, fecal or other contamination in site in the .7 milk #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: but that milk was unfit for me to drink yet the milk that *I* know had drugs etc in it and was approved was ok #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: the .7 milk was hand milked goat milk into a clean, sterilized stainless steel pail, chilled promptly, healthy animals, no sickness #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz If it's diluted to the point that it's insignificant, then you aren't a criminal. You are well within the law and safe #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance actually you did - because cleanliness isn't the only qualification #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Never said it wasn't. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: but if you're a criminal that dilutes it enough to pass testing then it's ok and you're approved #agchat
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nel1jack: @Natalie_Joy and if the consumer contaminates the product after they get it ?????? #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: as you said - if it's 1. then .9 is safe - so why isn't .7 ? #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: if it's out of someone's bulk tank or tests clean enough for DHIA figures then it's going in the food system anyway! #agchat
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Natalie_Joy: RT @samvance: If you make food that isn't safe, you're an idiot. If you sell food that isn't safe, you're a criminal. #agchat -
samvance: @WriteNowBiz Then you still have contamination possibilities from many other sources like fecal, chemical, microbiological. #agchat
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herdshare: #agchat farmers into raw milk may b able 2 b involved in a herdshare. we'll be ready 2 help with online admin come 2010 http://bit.ly/i6Hvk (expand) -
WriteNowBiz: no drugs 2 animal no residue in that animal - if beyond withholding time then it's good #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: perhaps - but if I know the guy who milks the animal who is not treated then I know that animal is 'clean' #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @nel1jack 3 days #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: but then this place was an AR dream too - not typical of at least the smaller dairies I've known; never went back to corporate ag jo #agchat
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nel1jack: @WriteNowBiz how many mmilkings could bul tank hold? #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: and I know the manager was scrambling to check the bulk tank before the truck got there & milk was shipped #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: but I know I helped pull sick/treated cows out of all 4 production level pens #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @nel1jack should be - not sure how it wasn't noticed for a whole milking as I wasn't in the parlor #agchat
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nel1jack: @WriteNowBiz how many milkings she was to be dumped. at each milking she had her strap changed #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: level to get under the radar test #agchat
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nel1jack: @WriteNowBiz the guy I worked for, when a cow was treated with any med. she had a strap attached to her near hind leg indicating #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance then perhaps my standards are different from gov't - I prefer to know there are no drugs etc in the milk not just acceptab #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz It is still there responsibility to follow regs or face consequences. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: time many more were already milked #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @nel1jack I think it was a mastitis cow that flagged it in a pen that someone recognized she shouldn't have been in - but by that #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: diluted drugs and sick cow milk in the milk jug - and those issues fuel opposition to large dairies even without my speaking up on i #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: I would rather take a chance on a dairy I've seen and am comfortable with drinking from their bulk tank raw than ?? if there are #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance with all due respect - if I buy from someone I know does not do that - it should be my choice and responsibility #agchat
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nel1jack: @WriteNowBiz and furthermore, were their cows not tagged? how could the milkers not notice the mastitis cows? #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: was a corporate dairy - and not the only thing happening there - NOT how I was taught anyway #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @nel1jack 1000 head 3xday #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz That doesn't mean it happens all the time. If that tested positive, then the farmer would be buying the whole truckload #agchat
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nel1jack: @WriteNowBiz how many freaking cows were they milking? #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: I would hope that isn't happening on these 3-5,000 head dairies - but faith in that? no #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: I saw it happened - I told the driver and told Dairygold - *no one* would listen #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz No, it doesn't. You have to set limits. Limits are set such that even if limit is reached, product still safe. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: was unnoticed for an entire milking #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: Dairygold - and it was in there - mastitis cows, treated cows, sick cows - gate came open and they got in with milking herd #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance I can promise you that did not happen - 100 cow sick pen milked into the tank and shipped; it was not caught @farm or @ #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Milk is slightly different bc it's tested at the farm. You know if there is any mastitis or anti-biotics, or Lysteria. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance but if it tests at 70 and was hand milked it's not safe #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: and that doesn't give food inc and all fuel for the fire at all? #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: so then the answer is withdrawal times mean nothing if you just dilute it down enough; mastitis milk, fresh cow milk etc #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: so if it's ok because of volume that's an even bigger reason to distrust the food system as is. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: applied fairly to all - the integrity of the food system is reached much more by large processors than those with 10 head #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz bc the processor that handles a million lbs of milk a day has better tech and more trained people than single homemade. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: so anyone can ship anything and if it's diluted in the processors the regs mean nothing? what good are regulations then if not #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz In the case of being diluted enough, it won't make a difference anyway. Diluted below detection isn't enough to harm. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: but they're worried about one goat owner selling a gallon a week or someone selling homemade fudge etc #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance this was happening as far back as 1980s - that's a long time for the gov't not to enforce their own regulations #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @nel1jack it's not caught if it's diluted down enough - doesn't mean it isn't in there #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz I believe that is an issue of funding and proper staffing of the USDA, FDA, etc. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @nel1jack agreed #agchat
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nel1jack: @WriteNowBiz if there is drug contamination, should be caught when it gets to the processor #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: and authorities are notified and nothing is done you tell me what good the regs are - it's buried #agchat
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nel1jack: @WriteNowBiz if I eat something and it makes me sick, I would like to know what caused it. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: when drugs are labelled not for human consumption with clearly stated withdrawal times there's a reason - when that milk is shipped #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance I do not trust the gov't etc - the regs can be compromised - the thing is when it is no one knows so thinks it's safe #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: that risk can be high and yes include illness or death - but it's still a choice that an individual has #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz They do dictate demand..by controlling supply..by giving subsidies. They should control the safety of our food. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance if someone has researched personal choice on quesos it's the consumer's responsibility that goes with the choice #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz ok..now, it is the person making the queso's responsibility to follow appropriate regs. or he/she will be held acct. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: I don't think the gov't belongs in yours or mine or anyone else's kitchen - I don't think they need to dictate demand #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: with the majority arguing for choice in large farms, I think yes if someone wants to buy homemade queso that's their choice and resp #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz That IS NOT an argument for less regulation. That is horrible logic. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: another way - if the person takes food home and mishandles it it's not producer's fault - contamination can happen anywhere #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: I don't buy it homemade or commercial - but if I did would still want choice & responsibility #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: animal rights and other activist organizations have 'experts' too - but it comes to what people believe is right for them #agchat
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ColbyB18: RT@dairydino Time for din din, see you all next week. Some toilet reading for you: http://bit.ly/xOO43 (expand) #agchat -
samvance: @WriteNowBiz Sorry, I used the term producer in a much broader sense than you have. I incl processing. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: there are experts saying "factory farms" should be shut down too - do they have credence to dictate that? I think not #agchat
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FarmerHaley: ok, I am hitting the hay, speaking of hay, got lots of it to square bale 2morrow!! #agchat -
nel1jack: @WriteNowBiz or eating raw cookie dough even #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz No... Food Inc has no food experts. #agchat
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nel1jack: @somafarmreport when the consumers start trying to dictate how ALL farmers should produce #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: there have also been illnesses from pasteurized milk, juice and other products that were NOT the producer's faullt #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance I do not believe that for 1/2 second. Peanut producers (another example) had nothing to do with *processing* peanut paste #agchat
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somafarmreport: RT @Jambutter Leaving animal rights issue aside, why are people that want to eat wholesome, fresh foods grown by farmers "activists" #agchat -
WriteNowBiz: @nel1jack yep! sometimes without eating it #agchat
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nel1jack: @FarmerHaley some ppl have circumvented the regs by purchasing a cow from a dairy, then they go and collect THEIR milk #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Outbreaks are related to the producer not adharing to regs. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance with all due respect, there's experts on this movie FoodInc and not all agree with them either! #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @FarmerHaley absolutely! and I think you know where I'm coming from on it as does @nel1jack #agchat
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nel1jack: @WriteNowBiz basically anything that can be consumed has caused an outbreak of disease at sopme time or another. #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz Any benefits of raw milk are far outweighed by the detrimental consequences. #agchat
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FarmerHaley: @WriteNowBiz yes, look at what happened after H1N1 #agchat social perception is alot
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WriteNowBiz: NYC or LA with product #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: the thing is someone milking 2-3 cows or a dozen goats by hand and selling the excess they don't use it's not like they're supplying #agchat
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samvance: Let's hear from the experts on this matter... http://bit.ly/37ciS (expand) #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @FarmerHaley I understand that too - and not just dairy products! #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance so we shouldn't eat pork/tomatoes/peppers/etcbecause gov't said they were safe and it wasn't? that's not right either #agchat
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nel1jack: @FarmerHaley Some ppl circumvent the laws. in which case its not the gov't letting it happen #agchat
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FarmerHaley: @WriteNowBiz the argument is if someone gets sick from raw milk, it can create a scare and lower milk price for all dairys #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: as was said earlier - when we have a choice there's also responsibility that goes with it; personal not gov't to make decisions 4me #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz and many smoked, drank and ate high fat foods and lived to a ripe old age. Doesn't make it safe. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: it's still a CHOICE - and if preserving CHOICE it's no more fair to dictate someone can't buy raw milk than ban it from a 5k dairy #agchat
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mpaynknoper: RT @derekbalsley: Thanks #agchat! It was a good one. Lots of tweeps, lots of tweets. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: my step grandparents lived to 80s90s drinking their raw milk- no TB #agchat
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samvance: Re: raw milk http://bit.ly/k8ANA (expand) #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: http://bit.ly/EeaBt (expand) sometimes lol #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: that's the risk that goes with choice #agchat
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FarmerHaley: That is in OH #agchat
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FarmerHaley: @nel1jack #agchat if you buy a cow and put it in a herdshare you can get a portion of its milk
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mpaynknoper: @TweetChat Thanks for working on it, but we need a reliable tool for #agchat. This is 3rd out of 4 wks with a problem. Different issues? -
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WriteNowBiz: P&G are in OH and do NOT label ingredients - check any of their soaps #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance soap does not need labels - check any mass produced one; and OH regs - nothing about it at that time unless med claims mad #agchat
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FarmerHaley: @WriteNowBiz well you should have let them try it #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance it can't be both ways though - we argue the 'factory farm' thing for choice; but the same goes for small producers via reg #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz They would be correct. It does need ingredients. Not an unreasonable demand. #agchat
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FarmerHaley: @WriteNowBiz interesting #agchat I guess their are labeling laws we got 2 follow???
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nel1jack: @writenowbiz @gilmerdairy @farmerhaley you can buy raw milk in TX if the dairy is licensed to sell it #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: I told 'em when proctor&gamble put ingredients on theirs I'll do it - they thought the soap was cheese #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz That is why we not only need regulation, but we need to fund the agencies that enforce and make them transparent. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @FarmerHaley OH farmers mkt some officials showed up& threatened me for selling SOAP; said it needed ingredients on it #agchat
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whitwallace: @meredithmo Didn't really get to meet you earlier, but thanks for the feedback during #agchat. I'm new to it!! Looking forward to your POV. -
WriteNowBiz: there's good small places and bad ones - and good and bad in large ones too #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: safety concern for gov't - but many have drank raw milk for years without incident if cows (or whatever) &equip clean #agchat
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samvance: @RandyKrotz As I've been saying. Where are the food scientists in this debate? There are real facts to be told in place of hysteria. #agchat
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mpaynknoper: @FarmerHaley don't worry - most of us were having #agchat difficulties this eve. Frustrating w/tweetchat, but tweetgrid held up.
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FarmerHaley: #agchat just saw a great got milk commercial on local dairy farm, wife says that is the 3rd local farm she saw on TV commercial lately
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WriteNowBiz: @gilmerdairy that's what I thought - thanks - even to buy raw milk for non-drinking most can't get it due to regs #agchat -
mpaynknoper: @cornfedfarmer No worries, understand. it take a lot of focus to follow #agchat. Didn't recognize you w/your new pix. :) -
WriteNowBiz: @samvance not my mode of transportation - point is it does affect more than said #agchat
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FarmerHaley: we had an amish man get prosecuted for selling raw milk in OH, good thing after ppl saw his bacteria counts #agchat
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mpaynknoper: OK, #agchat friends, I'm off to write a blog posting on transparency - if I can keep Twitter from distracting me. :)
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gilmerdairy: @WriteNowBiz @samvance I know you can't sell raw milk in Alabama, not sure about giving it away but I think that's a no-no as well #agchat
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samvance: @WriteNowBiz This is sort of like arguing in favor of riding a horse on the freeway bc it's your mode of transportation. #agchat
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RandyKrotz: TRY AGAIN Ag producers/brands getting drowned out not only by #FoodInc, but online, too. See v-Fluence research http://bit.ly/Dfcgy (expand) #agchat -
gilmerdairy: @dairydino @CBalling my price actually got worse this month and things aren't looking good for next month, either. #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance there's people been jailed and prosecuted for selling raw milk - so illegal is illegal #agchat
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mpaynknoper: @capitalpress We understand (my duty is still calling). Review the feed; quite a wild convo this eve. #agchat
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mpaynknoper: @FarmerHaley You mean the stream was screwed up with order of #agchat ?s? Not surprising, given issues in stream this eve. Sorry!
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WriteNowBiz: @FarmerHaley welcome back :-) #agchat
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RandyKrotz: Ag producers/brands getting drowned out not only by #FoodInc, but online, too. See v-Fluence research http://bit.ly/Dfc (expand) #agchat #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: I know in CA I could not legally GIVE it to someone #agchat
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WriteNowBiz: @samvance they probably would if it wasn't illegal to sell it - some states for pet consumption make you dye it #agchat
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capitalpress: Long day, and I missed #agchat. I hate it when that happens. But duty called.Jun 24, 2009 02:16 AM GMT · from TweetDeck ·
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