Agchat on Climate Change for 2009-12-29
Note: The posts are read from top to bottom.
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agchat:
Guidelines for #agchat, 8-10pmET 1)intro w/ location & #ag interest 2)stay on topic 3)start responses w/ Q# 4)play nice, be professional
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mpaynknoper:
@JeffFowle that very thought entered my mind as I looked at new flat screens on Sat. #agchat would make great biz use of all that space.
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agchick:
Tricia Braid Terry, IL Corn Comm Director, farm girl, etc...horses, chickens, ducks, goats, sometimes cattle, corn, beans
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agchat:
We've got lots of good questions for tonight. Get ready. First Q coming up soon. #AgChat
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mjwiegand:
Matt Wiegand. Commodity Broker, Farm Risk Management, and small time cattleman, out of Lincoln, Nebraska #agchat
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PotatoPro:
Hello everyone, Paul van Eijck, online media on... well, you know #agchat
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FunTSAR:
Hi, first time here, Bill (FunTSAR) farmer/winery/Agri-T Northeast Ohio,
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lionelle:
Hi #agchat , Albert Lionelle owner of U.S. Soil (fertilizer manufacturer). based in Colorado (in OR tonight though) #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Jeff from N. CA, 26 deg, 6" snow, 20 mph winds.....winter decided to show up! Cattle, horses, hay & grain. #agchat
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chicknafoxhole:
Chick here, East Coast, will be floating in & out. Hope everyone enjoyed a good holiday & all our #agchat friends are dug out. #agchat
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RayLinDairy:
Ray a measly dairy farmer from Central CA, but I do have a new monitor! #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
@jerz4me Just hover over the tweet you want to respond to and you'll see options. Otherwise, just type your tweet in the box at top. #agchat
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agchat:
Glad to hear from some regulars and hope we have some newcomers join in. I hope you're warm and keeping eyes off bowl game! #AgChat
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jerz4me:
Ohio Dairy Farmer, especially passionate about registered Jerseys #agchat
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lenejohansen:
Lene, writer, Philadelphia. Recently returned from Climate Conference Chaos in Copenhagen #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
Will likely be in & out of #agchat this eve. First, because I can (oh, the freedom!) & @kansfarmer has my nose to grindstone on web stuff.
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agchat:
Remember when we start Q's momentarily to use the Q# in your tweet. Let's keep on topic and be "nice." Pretty please? #AgChat
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capitalpress:
Gary West from Capital Press in Salem, Ore., checking in. May not be able to stay long though. #agchat
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amgrose:
Amanda from Sequoia Natl Forest in Cental Calif. Consumer. Hobby homesteader in a former bordello. #agchat
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agchat:
Gearing up for first question in just a minute. Feel free to introduce yourself anytime. #agchat
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SaveOurWay:
Hello, Gail in Illinois, small Family farm. Grain and livestock.Will lurk 4 most part #agchat
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celestelaurent:
Celeste from West KY. Raise showpigs & beef cattle. College ag student & aspiring ag journalist. Trying to chat from iPhone! #agchat
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eekfarms:
Hi everyone. I'm finally going to see what you guys are up to here. What are the topics tonight? #agchat
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agchat:
Here we go. Q1: Are farmers concerned about climate change and how will Cap&Trade impact the farm economy? via @lenejohansen #agchat
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SteakPerfection:
Hi all -- I can be here only a few minutes (then off to Avatar) for climate change discussion #agchat
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danielschel:
Daniel from Santa Rosa, CA; I'm a PhD Student in Agronomy at UC Davis studying GHGs (greenhouse gases) in Almond Orchards #agchat
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agchick:
Q1 I think farmers are concerned about climate change only in the framework of how the perception of a "problem" impacts policy
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AgriLawyer:
Q1: Of course, they are considering quite a bit of it deals what farmers/ranchers can do with their land #agchat
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eekfarms:
I'd say Farmers are concerned, or should be about climate change since temperature increases will affect your farm practice. #agchat
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SaveOurWay:
Q1 Not afraid of Climate but am of cap& trade. Mother nature has changed for yrs and always will #agchat
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mjwiegand:
Q1: I don't get the sense that any of the farmers I work with will get too excited until concrete items are baked into the farm bill #agchat
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lisamackhill:
Hi #agchat Small farm here in NH with 0 degrees outside and howling wind. Could use a little global warming!
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JeffFowle:
Q1 Natural cycles in the weather are always a challenge for farmers & ranchers. Always concerned @ potential regs that effect P&L. #agchat
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eekfarms:
More about me? My husband and I farm in the Holland Marsh, Ontario Canada, growing carrots/onions@agchat #agchat
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RayLinDairy:
To help the flow of the conversation and keeping the transcript in order for later please respond to the question w/ Q1 Q2 etc. #agchat
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agchick:
Q1 A research project at Univ of IL has been studying for years how increased CO2 in atmosphere will enhance plant growth/yield #agchat
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nel1jack:
Q1 I would be more concerned over setting legislation for 50 years based on 10 yrs data #agchat
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FunTSAR:
Most growers I know will not engage until we get more a concrete idea of how it will affect them #agchat
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RandolphWriter:
I just wonder whether Congress will always respond with $ on climate issues if farmers don't engage on climate change issues.
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SteakPerfection:
HR 2454 gives incentives for farmers to convert farms into forests - 59 million acres in next 40 years #agchat
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agchick:
RT @nel1jack: Q1 I would be more concerned over setting legislation for 50 years based on 10 yrs data #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
Indeed! RT @RayLinDairy: To help the flow of convo & keeping transcript in order for later please respond to question w/ Q1 Q2 etc. #agchat
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AgriBlogger:
Q1 I think farmers are very engaged on climate change, esp. via member groups like NCGA and others. Don't you? #AgChat
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lenejohansen:
Q1: Cap and Trade is largest tax hike in U.S. history, and I worry about food security due to higher production costs #agchat
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dairylu:
RT @SaveOurWay: Q1 Not afraid of Climate but am of cap& trade. Mother nature has changed for yrs and always will #agchat
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agchick:
Q1 Farmers deal with weather every day. "Climate" (non)change is a variable that will b penciled n regardless of policy wonks ideas. #agchat
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PotatoPro:
If the scientists are right it should still take decades before we see significant climate change. Mitigation is needed now #agchat
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SteakPerfection:
Q1 HR2454 theory: more forests = fewer farmed acres = less food = higher food prices = more farmer income (but fewer farmers) #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Q1 Does anyone seriously think that humans from developed countries can have major impact on climate? It's in God's hands. #agchat
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eekfarms:
Q1 Is co2 good 4 all crops, or just a few? We're currently fighting a GHG causing power plant, yield reduction will occur@agchick #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
Q1 Farmers are concerned with scientific facts about climate change. Political rhetoric is considered "hogwash."
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PutnamAg:
Q1 The carbon footprint of producing a bushel of grain, pound or hamburger or cwt of milk has decreased dramatically w/ technology. #agchat
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SaveOurWay:
RT @mpaynknoper: Q1 Farmers are concerned with scientific facts about climate change. Political rhetoric is considered "hogwash."
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rachelv8:
graphic designer / owner of ag web design and advertising agency in texas #agchat
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lenejohansen:
Q1: Climategate and UN document leaks makes the IPCC "science" very questionable. #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
RT @PutnamAg: Q1 Carbon footprint of producing bushel of grain, lb of hamburger or cwt of milk decreased dramatically w/ technology. #agchat
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agchick:
Q1 Cap and trade as written in house provides disincentive to con't long term conservation practices b/c no credit given. #agchat
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Porkchop1950:
Better late than never. Sorry AgChatters. From Colorful Colorado uncovering from the snow drifts. #agchat
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agchick:
Q1 If we're talking about "reality" of climate change, most farmers I know wudn't presume such self-importance to make a judgment #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Q1 Given that politicians will do something, it is essential that ag production is not negatively impacted. #agchat
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AgriLawyer:
@mpaynknoper Q1: I understand you point, but this scenario plays in a lot of things that would eventually require int'l agreement #agchat
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jerz4me:
Great point @PutnamAg: I heard an awesome presentation about that very topic last fall during ODPA meetings #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@agchick C02 is plant food, and the study you refer to is not the first to prove increased biomass production with increased C02 #agchat
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agchick:
Q1 Regardless of personal position, I believe the cap n trade/climate POLICY will become a reality. Needs to be mitigated. #agchat
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agchat:
We're off to a great start and the next Q is coming up shortly. Keep using the Q#. We appreciate it. #agchat
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SteakPerfection:
Q1: I'm not qualified to take a side in the global warming debate, but every rational farmer and steak lover should be concerned #agchat
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agchat:
For newcomers: Q1: via @lenejohansen Are farmers concerned about climate change and how will Cap&Trade impact the farm economy? #agchat
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nel1jack:
went to get a glass of buttermilk and now loster than heck
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FunTSAR:
Nice to hang with ya'll, catch ya next time Twub Feed dumping 20-30 messages on me at once can't process. #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@agchick Q1: Climategate made a lot of moderate dems drop support for Cap n' Trade, which is good news. Inhofe is on warpath now. #agchat
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capitalpress:
Q1: The more evironmental control regulations that exist, the more it seems to drive farmers to get big or get out. #agchat
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agchat:
Q2: via @RandolphWriter Is ag better off with C&T that has potential upside for some income, or w/ direct regulation from EPA? #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Q1 Climate will always cycle. We will adapt & modify production. We always have. #agchat
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montserratlj:
I think Q1 was about what farmers think of the science behind climate change, if it's "hogwash". #agchat
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agchick:
That's what farmers do. RT @JeffFowle: Q1 Climate will always cycle. We will adapt & modify production. We always have. #agchat
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eekfarms:
Q1 So I guess the questions is, is climate change real, or just the natural progression of our world? #agchat
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agchick:
I think it's preposterous to assume such dominion over something as large as the climate of the Earth.
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mjwiegand:
Q2: I think the prospect of upside income adds the flexibility needed to help farmers adapt most readily to a new playing field. #agchat
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celestelaurent:
Q1 Not an expert on climate change legis (proposed or rumored) but as farmer it scares me. Think many farmers are scared & confused #agchat
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capitalpress:
@AgriLawyer I don't think it will just be Cap & Trade that will affect it. A small farm may not have resources to deal with regs. #agchat
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SteakPerfection:
Q2: "Is ag better off with C&T"? It's a straight wealth transfer, so a few will be far better off, and most will be a little worse #agchat
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agchick:
Q2 Lesser of two evils? I'll take legislation crafted w/ input vs EPA leadership's regulatory power trip any day. #agchat
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JeffFowle:
@jerz4me As long as the gov. doesn't get involved, we will. Farmers/ranchers are ingenious & resiliant. #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
RT @agchick: I think it's preposterous to assume such dominion over something as large as the climate of the Earth. #agchat
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montserratlj:
Oh here's the actual Q1. RT @agchat Are farmers concerned about climate change and how will Cap&Trade impact the farm economy? #agchat
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DayAngus:
Q2: C& T will never be viable income for farmers unless EPA places the regulations to make it profitable #agchat
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SaveOurWay:
Q2 It will run our farm right out. Hard subject with out looking at Big Gove take over & 1 world order #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Q2 Any C&T legislation will impact ag, directly & indirectly. Transportation will be center stage. #agchat
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lionelle:
Q2 I think inputs cost changes will have a greater affect on the farmer with C & T (gas, npk, imported inputs, etc) #agchat
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capitalpress:
Q2: Devil will be in the details. How long will carbon have to be sequestered to qualify? Will it require higher production costs? #agchat
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agchick:
Q2 Ponder this: EPA announced it will regulate all CO2 emissions as danger to human health. Reality check: we produce it as humans. #agchat
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shaunhaney:
RT @agchick: Q2 EPA announced it will regulate all CO2 emissions as danger to human health. Reality check: we produce it as humans. #agchat
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DayAngus:
@JeffFowle Q2 that is true but Carbon in IL is being traded at much lower rate than Europe - and this point not worth the effort #agchat
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Zweberfarms:
Q2 will organic farms be effected greater because we cannot capture c02 in digester systems #agchat
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agchick:
Let me be clear: I favor conservation minded and environmentally responsible agriculture production. Don't favor guilt induced regs #agchat
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celestelaurent:
Q2 Dk if ag will benefit as a whole but it will adapt. The green movement has already changed ag in ways positive 4 some ex: ethanol #agchat
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PutnamAg:
Less tillage to sequester carbon might also mean more potential crop disease pressure. Every pro has its potential con. #agchat
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PotatoPro:
Q2 It will all depend on the carbon footprint of the farming operation. The lower the footprint the better off you are. #agchat
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DebbieLB:
RT @agchick: Let me B clear: I favor conservation minded, environmentally responsible ag production. Don't favor guilt induced regs #agchat
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RayLinDairy:
Agree RT @agchick: Let me be clear: I favor conservation minded and environment resp ag production. Don't favor guiltinduced regs #agchat
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jerz4me:
any thoughts on who exactly will do the "monitoring" they would have to have an enormous staff... #agchat
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capitalpress:
@agchat Same reason there is push to pass health care reform. Politicians want to be seen as doing something, even if don't know how #agchat
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lionelle:
RT @agchick I favor conservation minded and environmentally responsible ag production. Don't favor guilt induced regs #agchat - I agree
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danielschel:
Q2: Strategies suggest paying for alternative mgt practices; no-till, planting trees, conversion to pasture, N fertilizer source #agchat
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montserratlj:
RT @agchat Q2...Is ag better off with C&T that has potential upside for some income, or w/ direct regulation from EPA? #agchat
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SimpleAsDirt:
RT @agchick: Let me B clear: I favor conservation minded, environmentally responsible ag production. Don't favor guilt induced regs #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@potatopro If passed C&T is biggest tax increase in U.S. history. Horner always asks what the temperature will be when it is passed #agchat
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Zweberfarms:
Q2: organic farms might be neg affected because we rotate crops (w/ tillage) to prevent weeds. not in favor of C&T #agchat
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agchat:
@agchick Correct. Can't bring myself to say that "wiser" heads are prevailing there though. #agchat
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agchick:
Can't imagine India is. @iTweetMeat Their livestock are here and there, one water buffalo per family. Large dairy is 40 cows. #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@iTweetMeat Including changing stomach bacteria composition to eliminate methane? I find that to be unnecessary meddling w nat proc #agchat
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agchick:
Interesting RT @Zweberfarms: Q2: organic farms might be neg affected b/c rotate crops w/ tillage 2 prevent weeds. not n favor of C&T #agchat
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capitalpress:
And don't forget to calculate carbon emissions of wildlife. Which will prevail? Climate regs or Endangered Species Act? #agchat
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PotatoPro:
@lenejohansen Q2 Such a tax increase would still be small compared to taxes already paid on energy use in many countries in Europe #agchat
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agchat:
Q3: via@cornguy What are the pot. competitive consequences if U.S. pursues aggressive C&T agenda & others stay on the sideline? #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
RT @agchat: Q3 via@cornguy What are pot. competitive consequences if U.S. pursues aggressive C&T agenda & others stay on sideline? #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@cornguy Q3: Our legislators seems to be smart (so far) and keeping the U.S. on the sidelines on this issue. It is energy rationing #agchat
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agchat:
Lots of good stuff here. Try to use Q# so we know which you're referring to. #agchat
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agchick:
Q3 I say competitive advantage net loss. Other countries will laugh all the way to the bank. #agchat
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mealsmatter:
Sorry to be so late to the party tonight. MM is nutrition ed/healthy eating org based in California.
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celestelaurent:
Sending a thank you to those of u sharing links to climate change facts. It's still confusing but ur help is appreciated! #agchat
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eekfarms:
Q3 Consequences would be reduction in farm profits. We experience this with chemicals allowed in other countries, but not here. #agchat
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rachelv8:
I agree RT @agchick: Q3 I say competitive advantage net loss. Other countries will laugh all the way to the bank. #agchat
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TruffleMedia:
#agchat q3 if we impose our own C&T agenda and other stay on side then we will be at a disadvantage for trade, growth, etc
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JeffFowle:
Methane is 0.00017% of the atmosphere. Are we seriously worried about cattle increasing that by 1%?? #agchat
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eekfarms:
Q3 There are probably other consequences, but that is what comes to mind immediately. #agchat
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gkonen:
-So do i need to change my priorities from corn hugger& cattle to tree hugger #agchat
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montserratlj:
RT @agchat Q3: via@cornguy ...pot. competitive consequences if U.S. pursues aggressive C&T agenda & others stay on the sideline? #agchat
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PotatoPro:
Q3 USA is lagging, not ahead, needs to catch up. US didn't sign Kyoto, remember? #agchat
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hogs_r_us:
Mark McHargue farmer from snowy Nebraska irrigated corn,popcorn and hogs #agchat
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agchat:
Q3 Sounds like C&T not good for ag based on what I see you saying. Is there any good in it for ag? #agchat
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mjwiegand:
Q3: Losing out on export markets would be my key concern if available quantities of commodities ceased to be sufficient to compete #agchat.
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agchick:
Kyoto didn't bind all nations. Why give away the house to get a new gutter? RE: @PotatoPro: Q3 US didnt sign Kyoto, remember? #agchat
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lenejohansen:
Q3: Other countries are either ignoring their goals, or buying their way out w/ offsets like my home country Norway (oilproducer) #agchat
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TEFGal:
My husband and I are pork producers in So Mn. I also work for Hubbard Feeds. Involved in state pork organizations
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Podchef:
@JeffFowle I think the politicos & wonks R afeard we farmers R going 2 capture methane & use it 2 power things & they'll loose out #agchat
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lenejohansen:
Q3 Developing nations, currently excempt. EU lying their face off. US not ratified Kyoto for econ reasons. #agchat
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capitalpress:
Sorry to cut out early, but other priorities call. Have fun all. Solve all the world's problems and Happy New Year. #agchat
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agchat:
@PotatoPro Can you provide an example? RT Q3 USA is lagging, not ahead, needs to catch up. US didn't sign Kyoto, remember? #agchat
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agchick:
Q3 Our competitive adv slipping in other ways as ag competitors ramp up low cost production. C&T adds to that. How to mitigate?? #agchat
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danielschel:
Q3 @agchat Cap and Trade may lead to less carbon and nitrogen losses from soil and result in greater input use efficiency #agchat
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agchick:
Q3 C&T adds costs, plain and simple. How do we position that against other nations who don't? Maybe just farm in Brazil? #agchat
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DayAngus:
@dairylu I be more worried about the fact that EPA pushing for Wetland creation and they contribute methane at high rate #agchat
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PotatoPro:
Q3 Examples: energy efficiency of cars, electrical appliances, (food) factories, use of alternative energy, water use #agchat
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nycUlla:
#agchat Ulla here from upstate NY. Very interesting conversation. I see no reason why big & small ag will not move toward sustainability.
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agchat:
If you're lurking at #agchat, jump in with your name, location & #ag interest; we're a friendly sort of crowd.
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lenejohansen:
Q4: By focusing research funding on understanding climate, rather than climate change. Much basic research still remains. #agchat
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shaunhaney:
@agchick This is the problem in the developed world. We are not cost competitive so we decide to add more of a cost disadvantage. #agchat
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Zweberfarms:
Q4: more interest for funding. Climate change brings money, plain old ag research does not
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mjwiegand:
Q4: I think climate change can benefit agriculture by helping to channel R&D towards more efficient production in all scales #agchat.
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cownutritionist:
Just landed in Milwaukee. Ag tweeps carry on with the good work. Have a safe and wonderful New Year! #agchat
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jerz4me:
Q4: more research could help us find ways to create efficiencies in our businesses, but it has to be timely and relevant #agchat
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dairylu:
Q4 Dr. Capper's research on carbon footprint definitely benefited dairy b/c we truly have a great story to tell. #agchat
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agchick:
Q4 Climate change research, when undertaken by all interested stakeholders, could push further ag tech w/ fed $s non-existant b4 #agchat
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lenejohansen:
Q3: Also, FYI, Australia rejection emissions trading two weeks before Copenhagen started. Opposition leadership spill was a thriller #agchat
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nycUlla:
#agchat Q4 I see no reason why ag can not be more sustainable. Lets not forget America was blessed when it comes to land. We can do better.
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TruffleMedia:
#agchat q4 climate research will always help in ag planning. Climate modeling can always help with risk assessment too.
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LizMarrMSRD:
Q4: More interest and funding for research with drought-resistant crops. #agchat
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eekfarms:
I have to run my kids' friends home, but I'll rejoin the conversation in about 30 minutes. #agchat
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celestelaurent:
Q4 Ag can always benefit from more research. Farmers need proven facts to improve operations, not speculation by politicians #agchat
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lenejohansen:
Q4: Problem is research funding is political. Climate CHANGE is hot now, but we still lack fundamental understanding of clim. proces #agchat
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agchick:
Q4 The debate focuses interest in ag. Focusing that beam of light will either cause a burndown or an illumination. #agchat
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ssteever:
#agchat q4 True research (with a legit peer review process minus political agenda) could have endless possibilities for improving #ag
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shaunhaney:
Q4 getting any sort of amount of money for ag research is a win at this point. #agchat
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KyFarmersMatter:
Hello #agchat ~Amy ~Sm Cattle farmer, USDA slaughter house owner from Ky just checking in. Whatcha doin'?
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lionelle:
Q4 farmers know everything is interconnected. CC research helps with the overall picture (ex potential insect issues and weather) #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Q4 Any CC reasearch involving ag must be kept in perspective, compared to other impacting factors.
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agchick:
RT @ssteever: Q4 True research (w/ legit peer review process - political agenda) could have endless possibilities for improving #ag #agchat
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MikeHowie:
Q4: Definition of climate research is key. Is developing lower-input crops 'climate research'? It could be an opportunity. #agchat
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hogs_r_us:
Q4 maybe we will prove through research that growing crops and animals is improving the climate and somebody will pay us better #agchat
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PotatoPro:
Q3 Farmers should make sure that they can sell their product at a profit no matter what the input costs #agchat
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jasnos:
Not a rancher or farmer. Only eater. Following #agchat for first time tonight. Discussion, discussion, discussion, internet action.
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agchick:
Good point. Shape the issue. That's politics RT @MikeHowie: Q4: Definition of climate research is key...It could be an opportunity. #agchat
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gkonen:
It all comes down to sustainably U need to make a profit on your product that U grow or raise otherwise U R doomed #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Great point. Shape the issue. That's politics RT @MikeHowie: Q4: Definition of climate research is key...It could be an opportunity. #agchat
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PotatoPro:
Q4 Research on how to (economically feasible) adjust agricultural production to potential new requirements would make sense #agchat
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danielschel:
Q4 CC research should answer basic questions. If C and N aren't lost as GHGs, then they will stay in the ag system. Good? I think so #agchat
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agchick:
You write the how to yet? RT @PotatoPro: Q3 Farmers shud make sure they...profit no matter what the input costs #agchat
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Grass_Fed_Beef_:
RT @nycUlla: #agchat Q4 I see no reason why ag can not be more sustainable. Lets not forget America was blessed when it comes to land. W ...
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agchat:
Y'all are making my job so easy. Q5 coming up in a couple minutes. #agchat
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nycUlla:
#agchat China has been buying up land all over the world: Chile, Africa.
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ssteever:
Q4 accurate climate models could help w/hybrid & input choices #agchat
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JPlovesCOTTON:
Wish I was able to participate in #agchat. Quick look at stream is very interesting but I need to hit the road. Alas, no voice 2 tweet :(
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agchick:
Q4 @nycUlla When I was in China in March '09 I heard China will "import" water, but what they meant was produce food crops elsewhere #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@ssteever That would assume that we have sufficient understanding of climate mechanism to design accurate models. Not so yet. #agchat
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agchat:
Q5: via @AFBFMace Are you more concerned about added regulatory costs or climate changes that might impact production? #agchat
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agchick:
Q4 There are winners and losers on every issue. It's just the magnitude of your win or loss. Politics is about compromise. #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Q4 Thing to remember about models. They are only as good as the data is that is entered. #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@ssteever We don't understand role of clouds, cannot model air circulation in upper and lower troposphere, role of rain etc. #agchat
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shaunhaney:
Have a great night everyone, I have to go play hockey......That sounded so Canadian!!! #agchat
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celestelaurent:
Q4 Obviously this is not a black & white issue. Both ag & the general public deserve continued research to clear up the grey areas. #agchat
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PeteAlexion:
Q5 Reg. costs. We'll always adapt to climate change, not their hand in my wallet #agchat
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tandmark:
Regular Twitter convo called #agchat has started. If U're interested in food issues, click on hashmark to see recent posts. Refresh for more
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RayLinDairy:
@gkonen your twitter bio is great would you give the rest of #agchat an intro sometimes convo is 2 fast to look at bio's
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agchick:
Q5 Regulatory costs. Repeating, I think most farmers assume variability and change in weather/climate and try to minimize w/ tech #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Q5 More concerned about Regulations. Can easily roll & adapt w/ climate cycles.
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lionelle:
Q5 regulatory costs. simply, we adapt our production (most regulators do not understand) - more costs means less margin to adapt #agchat
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1burdette:
Q5Worried about added regulatory cost with no real benefit to anybody, or added income to produce profit #agchat
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nycUlla:
#agchat Yeah, I think we forget how blessed we are in term of land and resources. CC laws might hurt us but we need to become smarter.
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RayLinDairy:
Q5 Regulatory hurdles that make it harder & cost more to do the right thing and continue to minimize our environmental impact #agchat
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agchick:
RT @lionelle: Q5 regulatory costs. simply, we adapt our prod (most regulators dontunderstand) -more costs means less margin to adapt #agchat
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celestelaurent:
Q5: Reg cost! Everyday I farm I'm taking a gamble on the weather. I don't need Uncle Sam making that game harder! #agchat
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mjwiegand:
Q5: Barring a Day after Tomorrow type event, regulations would be top. #agchat.
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ssteever:
Q4 Sustainable? between '71 and '84 soil erosion dropped 40% - how about some credit for efforts farmers already make? #agchat
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agchick:
RT @1burdette: Q5Worried about added regulatory cost with no real benefit to anybody, or added income to produce profit #agchat
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JeffFowle:
RT @lionelle: Q5 regulatory costs. We adapt our production (most regulators do not understand) - >costs means < margin 2 adapt #agchat
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shaunhaney:
RT @ssteever: Q4 Sustainable? between '71 and '84 soil erosion dropped 40% - how about some credit for efforts farmers already make? #agchat
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jerz4me:
worried about costs, but also the added paperwork and processes behind the scenes #agchat
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celestelaurent:
RT @ssteever: Q4 Sustainable? between '71 and '84 soil erosion dropped 40% - how about some credit for efforts farmers already make? #agchat
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hogs_r_us:
Q5 I don't think there is any good data proving that climate is changing so further reg is just another burden and cost 2 society #agchat
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lionelle:
@jerz4me added paperwork is so true. Most our 'organic' clients refuse to sell organic simply due to paperwork #agchat
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LizMarrMSRD:
Q5: Regulatory costs should not be the burden of producers. Processors and retailers need to pick up part of the tab --> consumers. #agchat
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DayAngus:
Q5: worried about the costs with regs but more importantly an avenue for the modern env. movement to stop us from farming #agchat
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danielschel:
Q5 We are human and humans adapt. My experience with Resource Conservation Districts is regulations equal burden for landowners. #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
RT @LizMarrMSRD: Q5 Regulatory costs shouldn't be burden of producers. Processors & retailers need to pick up part of tab->consumers.#agchat
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JeffFowle:
RT @ssteever: Q4 Sustainable? between '71 and '84 soil erosion dropped 40% - how about some credit 4 efforts farmers already make? #agchat
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jerz4me:
I totally agree... in many cases processors take advantage or producers, I'd like to see them put some skin in the game@LizMarrMSRD #agchat
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agchat:
Q6: What did American ag learn from the COP15 United Nations Climate Change Conference? Can't leave that event out of the convo. #agchat
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agchick:
I know I'm flooding you w/ tweets tonight. Apologies! But would love to have you join us in #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@PotatoPro Local climate change will jeopardize food security for subsistence farmers. Econ growth let them afford adaptation. #agchat
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agchick:
Q6 Dunno. Wasn't there. Waiting for the reports back from my peeps in ag! #agchat
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cownutritionist:
Q5- Another loaded question! As nutrionist, impacts on production worry me more. Understand both sides 4 producers though. #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Q6 A lot of government officials made carbon footprints to accomplish nothing. #agchat
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agchick:
Laudable ideal, totally unrealistic RT @Zweberfarms: Q6: if countries dont trust each other, nothing is going to change. #agchat
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celestelaurent:
Sorry to my non-ag/journo tweeps 4 bombarding u with my #agchat tweets. Ur welcome to join or watch the fireworks by following the hashtag.
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AgriLawyer:
Q6: This is just part of larger ideological issues between countries
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yourlocalfoods:
Q6, safe to say carbon credit market will go public? Already happening now, including ag changes to earn credits to sell. #agchat
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agchick:
Q4 What is current price of carbon on Chicago Climate Exchange? #agchat
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RayLinDairy:
Sure have even some regs too! RT @JeffFowle: Q6 A lot of government officials made carbon footprints to accomplish nothing. #agchat
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hogs_r_us:
@PotatoPro Precaution are usually take if the risk reward ratio say its needed just not sure there is any reward at this point. #agchat
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DayAngus:
@agchick I could not tell you at this point. IL SWCD are in charge of that program. I know it is low #agchat
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agchat:
Since it looks like we have few thoughts on COP15 let's move on. Q7 coming up. #agchat
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MikeHowie:
Q6: Protesters will protest. 'Big' is 'bad.' 'Corporate' is 'bad.' 'Technology' is 'bad.' etc. etc. Same old same old. #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Q6 Have to say it...This whole carbon trading idea seems like an international Ponzi scheme. #agchat
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agchat:
Q7: via @mpaynknoper How do we translate science in a way that helps people understand more than the politics of climate change? #agchat
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agchick:
okay Bernard ;) RT @JeffFowle: Q6 Have to say it...This whole carbon trading idea seems like an international Ponzi scheme. #agchat
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UBetcha_Apparel:
Jenny Gambill - Farmer/Rancher Daughter - Entrepreneur and AG kid- Just getting in from chores and lurking tonight. #agchat
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KYSheepandGoat:
Q7 We have to find some reliable science first. Lately, the scientists are as political as the politicians. #agchat
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lionelle:
Q7: not sure if this is the best way, but usually we talk about the complexity of life and how little we actually know. #agchat
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RayLinDairy:
Sometimes I think they "Protest 2 Protest "RT @MikeHowie: Q6: Protesters will protest 'Big'='bad.' 'Corp'='bad.' 'Tech'='bad.' etc. #agchat
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yourlocalfoods:
Q6, true on markets, wall st drooling, storyofstuff has nice presentation on Cap & Trade, have to find link #agchat
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DebbieLB:
It's an emotional issue--not just scientific. Our story is emotional, too! RT @Zweberfarms: Q7: sounds too simple, telling our story #agchat
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celestelaurent:
Q7 Im one of those ppl! If I wasnt in ag I would probably wouldn't have struggled through the research I've attempted. So confusing! #agchat
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lenejohansen:
Q7 There is plenty of solid science. Stay away from the models and the big headliners and you find plenty of good stuff. #agchat
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agchick:
Q7 Don't bother w/ science of #farm. Focus on the science on the loss to their checking accounts due to higher energy costs #agchat
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naturalart:
DITTO I agree!! RT @JeffFowle: Q6 Have to say it...This whole carbon trading idea seems like an international Ponzi scheme. #agchat
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dairylu:
Have to agree w/you! RT @JeffFowle: Q6 Have to say it...This whole carbon trading idea seems like an international Ponzi scheme #agchat
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gplot:
Q7 All that matters is climate change is happening, and if we don't find a way to stop it, farmers all over the world will be hurt #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
RT @agchat: Q7 How do we translate science in a way that helps people understand more than the politics of climate change? #agchat
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TruffleMedia:
Q7 #agchat people are not usually interested in understanding the science itself; passion and voice of conviction (and FUD) sway people.
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fiscaliniCHEESE:
this is where we become dual-personality, in a way it could benefit us because of the digester and carbon credits... #agchat
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SaveOurWay:
Family calls, must run out. Will read up the rest later. Nice chat all #agchat
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AgriLawyer:
Q7: Get the right people to talk about the politics that are surrounding the hard science: Politics is a science in itself #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@gplot Q7 Climate change has always happened, so adaption, not political regulation to "freeze" temperature is required. #agchat
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DebbieLB:
this is obvious in the media reports--facts? RT @TruffleMedia: Q7 ppl are not usually interested in understanding the science itself #agchat
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billrowekamp:
climate has been changing over the last 500,000 years. Why do we feel we must stop it now? #agchat
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agchick:
Why on Earth wud u want to stop climate chng? i.e. ice age source of fertile soil due to glacial movement @gplot: Q7 #agchat
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hogs_r_us:
Q7 My observation is if celebrity's are leading the charge on something it probably not very scientific just political #agchat
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Niffer72:
RT @JeffFowle: Q6 Have to say it...This whole carbon trading idea seems like an international Ponzi scheme. #agchat
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DayAngus:
@agchick agree we would not have the world's best soil in IL to farm if it were not for those glaciers Q7 #Agchat
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ssteever:
Q7 when scientists are no longer skeptics, then its not science, but dogma. Suppressing skeptics means they have crossed the line #agchat
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BradshawPinot:
Q7: Robert Samuelson (Newsweek) noted on this topic: 'People do listen to facts, but experience has more influence than argument.' #agchat
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Porkchop1950:
Q7, leading author (Carlson) said that if all carbon creation stopped today, it would take in excess of 65 years to reverse trend. #agchat
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PotatoPro:
Q7 Science contains an element of interpretation, so it is not absolute. Don't trust whoever says it is. #agchat
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agchat:
We've got 15 min. left. The standard last Q coming up, then time for personal pitches. #agchat
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yourlocalfoods:
Q7, personal impacts are more conducive to action than science, need to tailor to audience. Only some will change for "planet" IMHO #agchat
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KYSheepandGoat:
Isn't it the bovine/ovine burps causing the supposed problems, not the other end? #agchat
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AgriLawyer:
Q7: I'm not picking a side, but I believe it unrealistic to completely dismiss the idea that we affect the natural environment #agchat
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agchick:
Q7 Read Robert Greene's "The Art of Seduction" and then think about this from a diff perspective. Don't be sheep, people. #agchat
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fiscaliniCHEESE:
we are however producing 2&half Xs the amount of energy we use (I hope the cows dont get N2 beans my lite bulbs may explode!) #agchat
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agchat:
Time for Q8: What are executable ideas we can take away from tonight's chat? #agchat
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lenejohansen:
@agrilawyer C7 Of course we have an impact on the environment, but in this case, the political case overstates it for pol. purpose #agchat
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RayLinDairy:
Emotion 2 RT@bradshawpinot Q7: Robert Samuelson Newsweek on this topic: Ppl do listen 2 facts, but experience > argument #agchat
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AgriLawyer:
@agchick Q7: I agree that there are forces bigger than people, take any weather event, but on the other hand we can be catalyst #agchat
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PotatoPro:
Q7 That said, I find it disturbing to see that increasingly spin prevails over science #agchat
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Zweberfarms:
Q8: it is great to tweet about our concerns, but we need to let our elected officials know too. #agchat
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yourlocalfoods:
Q8, I have a need to understand the current carbon trading markets out there, so I'll work on that a bit. #agchat
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lenejohansen:
Q8: Senators know they are on shaky ground here. Call them down when C&T comes up. Tell them to VOTE NO! #agchat
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AgriLawyer:
@agchick ha, not a concern . . .I always find your statements intelligent so no need to take your words from my mouth :) #agchat
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1burdette:
RT @billrowekamp don't think it's about change, i think it's about speed #agchat About consequences and if our habits actually affect it
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lenejohansen:
@AgriLawyer Q7 Ag has come a long way in reducing the environmental impact of the farm. Research and good practice will cont. trend #agchat
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RandolphWriter:
Q8 We still need to look at - study facts. Lots of stuff popping here. Hard to know what's/who's true, who/what is not. #agchat
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PutnamAg:
Have to bow out. Grocery run w/ youngest daughter. Excellent discussion tonight! #agchat
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danmandle:
Q6 At #COP15 we learned that China--and other developing countries--have much more influence than in the past (eg at Kyoto). #AgChat
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hogs_r_us:
Q8 Get involved in your local Farm Bureau we have to be involved politically because that's where regulations will be written.
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1burdette:
I have given lots of combine rides, complete with a little education
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AgriLawyer:
Q7: I find the idea of creating a loosely measured derivative market a little odd to temper a "problem", but I do think there . . . #agchat
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lenejohansen:
Porkchop1950 Q7 I have not found this in research data and I have spent quite a bit of time on those journals the last few months #agchat
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AgriLawyer:
Q7: . . . is always ways that can help make people more conscious of our impacts. #agchat
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agchick:
Q8 Visit your Congressman when he/she is in home district or in DC. #agchat
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DebbieLB:
Q8: We can't just sit back & watch it happen. Ag community must be in on the CC discussion & any "fixes." #agchat
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agchick:
Q8 Don't forget EPA!! It's a runaway horse with no rider, pullin us all on a crazy trip in a wagon. Comment. Write. Fax. Call. NOW! #agchat
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agchat:
Good ideas for Q8. We need those to close things out. Let's open up to your questions, ideas or just give us a personal pitch. #agchat
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DayAngus:
Q8: Common Sense must be put back into the legislative equation. Emotions rule over facts #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
Amen! RT @DebbieLB: Q8: We can't just sit back & watch it happen. Ag community must be in on the CC discussion & any "fixes." #agchat
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eekfarms:
Q8 I got involved with Twitter to let non-farmers know what goes on on the family farm, I'm followed by some politicians too! #agchat
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BradshawPinot:
Q8: The executable idea that Bradshaw Vineyards will continue to focus on is Stewardship. Respect the land, farm sustainably. #agchat
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AgriLawyer:
Q8: I believe we are more conscious as a generation than those of our recent ancestors, especially re: land use and technology #agchat
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RayLinDairy:
RT @agchick: Q8 Don't forget EPA!! It's a runaway horse w/ no rider, pullin us all on a crazy trip in a wagon. Comment Fax Call NOW! #agchat
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dairydiscovery:
just looked at the menu for COP15. looks like organic=sustainable. why r those 2 suddenly interchangeable? #agchat
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DebbieLB:
Q8: also get involved in industry groups who help digest all proposed govt regs--collective voices R louder! #agchat
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eekfarms:
Q8 In my opinion most gov'ts are clueless when it comes to ag, they make policy based on info they have, frmrs need 2 give info. #agchat
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hogs_r_us:
We could produce a lot of energy if we installed methane burners to all the boys locker rooms around the country:) #agchat
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celestelaurent:
RT @eekfarms: Q8 I got involved w/Twitter to let non-farmers know what goes on on family farm, 'm followed by some politicians too! #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Amen! RT @hogs_r_us: Q8 Get involved in local Farm Bureau Have to be involved politically. That's where regulations R written. #agchat
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DebbieLB:
RT @hogs_r_us: We could produce a lot of energy if we installed methane burners to all the boys locker rooms around the country:) #agchat
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ssteever:
Q8 Pols are as far removed from farming as gen populace, but they listen when you write and call #agchat
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danielschel:
Q8: Producers can reach past customers to consumers in order to bundle beneficial practices with product marketing using the web #agchat
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agchat:
Thanks to everyone who has participated and lurked AgChat tonight. I've enjoyed the opp. to be your moderator. #agchat
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agchick:
#agchat must be nearly over...my wine bottle is nearly empty...
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Porkchop1950:
Glad to be part of the discussion tonight. Have a Great New Year Everybody. Glad we can discuss Agriculture freely every Tues. #agchat
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brooksbayne:
@agchat big supporter of farmers and growers. my family has farmed for many generations in north america. since 1634. #agchat
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agchat:
Although AgChat has ended for this week, please feel free to continue the conversation. This topic is very important to ag. #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
Woot Woot to @agriblogger for his guest moderating this eve. I SO enjoyed the opportunity to particpate & get some other items done. #agchat
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HonestMeat:
What is sustainable if it is not organic? How can poisoning people, water, amphibians, etc. be "sustainable"? #agchat
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dairylu:
Interesting discussion. Incredibly fast 2 hours! Ag tweeps are great. g'night. #agchat
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agchat:
Happy New Year early from AgChat and may we have a fantastic 2010. #agchat
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eekfarms:
As a Farmer, I'm glad we have this outlet to talk with one another. Happy New Year everyone! #agchat
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AgriBlogger:
Really enjoyed moderating #AgChat tonight. Great ideas and participation from those in and out of ag.
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ssteever:
Q8 Producers need help getting their stories told - they r great stewards of the land/animals. 2010 goal: get my neighbors online #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
@agchat Indeed it is. And may I suggest you set up column on your Twitter management tool for ease of viewing convos throughout week #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
Ditto - delighted! RT @eekfarms: As a Farmer, Im glad we have this outlet to talk with one another. Happy New Year everyone! #agchat
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AZakenn:
RT@JeffFowle:Amen!RT@hogs_r_us:Q8 Get involved in local Farm Bureau Have 2 B involved politically. That's whr regulations R written. #agchat
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JeffFowle:
Supper is calling my name thanks to my wife & son. Great #agchat tonight! Thank you all for participating. #agchat
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mpaynknoper:
Sending all in the #agchat community (even those watching us w/o a word) best wishes for a great start to 2010 and the new decade! #agchat
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TruffleMedia:
Do we say twenty ten or two thousand ten? RT @agchat: Happy New Year early from AgChat and may we have a fantastic 2010. #agchat
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FarmerHaley:
sorry to miss #agchat tonight, to many other meetings to get to this time of year!
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KyFarmersMatter:
On a side note, just 4 FYI: sm livestock processors work on very small margins. Energy/supply increases put us in a bind quickly. #agchat
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agchick:
Who will be in Seattle during AFBF? I'm going for vacay...let's tweetup Jan 8-12?? #agchat
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naturalart:
@honestmeat not all organic products recycle, reduce, reuse. U can have organic milk but not one cow sees daylight or roams free. #agchat.
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HonestMeat:
There are no rules 4 "sustainable" producers, but there are 4 organic. Organic producers have 2 conserve soil, biodiversity, etc.
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agchick:
I gotcha ;) RT @brooksbayne: don't get defensive. my comment had nothing to do with you. i was having fun with the liberal. ;) #agchat
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celestelaurent:
I've "met" many great tweeps thro #agchat this year. Thank u all for being so supportive & inspirational in 2009. See u in 2010!!!
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naturalart:
@HonestMeat but the old rules in place didn't allow for access. Important to educate consumers. I am pleased with the new rules. #agchat
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HonestMeat:
Organic is a baseline 4 sustainability, not end goal. We must do more, such as waste reduction, water conserv., treat people better #agchat
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HonestMeat:
@naturalart Not that they didn't allow 4 pasture access, they just didn't clearly define it. Dean Foods had 2 much lobbying control #agchat
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jasnos:
As a consumer, will C+T have more of an affect on small farmers or big farmers? #agchat
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naturalart:
they needed to be written with the best to be achieved but it needed to be inclusive in the beginning. We r getting there. #agchat
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agchat: @mpaynknoper No Zinfandel in my hand yet. Twubs very slow. #AgChat
mpaynknoper: @JeffFowle that very thought entered my mind as I looked at new flat screens on Sat. #agchat would make great biz use of all that space.
agchick: I heart @agriblogger! #agchat
RayLinDairy: Great idea! RT @JeffFowle: @mpaynknoper It would become a deductable expense ehh? #agchat
AgriLawyer: Hello #agchat, Craig Raysor, #ag and #food attorney based out of memphis #agchat
AgriBlogger: Moderating #AgChat tonight. Follow us @AgChat.
JeffFowle: @Longknife12 A good idea. 2006 Oakville Cab Sauv from Groth Winery.....perfect for the #agchat.
iTweetMeat: @JeffreyJKingman Alas #custserv overlaps with #agchat and I will be participating in the latter. Sry!
chicknafoxhole: Chick here, East Coast, will be floating in & out. Hope everyone enjoyed a good holiday & all our #agchat friends are dug out. #agchat
CMEGroup: RT @AgriBlogger: Moderating #AgChat tonight. Follow us @AgChat. #farm
gotmilk007: Hello, I am going broke milking cows in central Florida #agchat
lenejohansen: Lene, writer, Philadelphia. Recently returned from Climate Conference Chaos in Copenhagen #agchat
KYSheepandGoat: Ray Bowman here in central Kentucky #agchat
TruffleMedia: @RayLinDairy #agchat is that an extra extra wide monitor from Xmas? :)
capitalpress: Gary West from Capital Press in Salem, Ore., checking in. May not be able to stay long though. #agchat
SaveOurWay: Hello, Gail in Illinois, small Family farm. Grain and livestock.Will lurk 4 most part #agchat
celestelaurent: Celeste from West KY. Raise showpigs & beef cattle. College ag student & aspiring ag journalist. Trying to chat from iPhone! #agchat
SteakPerfection: Hi all -- I can be here only a few minutes (then off to Avatar) for climate change discussion #agchat
danielschel: Daniel from Santa Rosa, CA; I'm a PhD Student in Agronomy at UC Davis studying GHGs (greenhouse gases) in Almond Orchards #agchat
RandolphWriter: I think they're concerned, but perhaps don't know as much as they should. Get a lot of slogans. @agchat #agchat
lisamackhill: Hi #agchat Small farm here in NH with 0 degrees outside and howling wind. Could use a little global warming!
soneternal: RT @gotmilk007 Dairymen in FL pray for Global Cooling! #agchat
furryfarmer: #agchat Climate is always a concern, harder to judge growing season
kellymoltzen: Participate in a twitter chat about climate change tonight, 8-10pm ET w/ @agchat! Send your messages to @agchat and use the hashtag #agchat
livingMAXwell: RT @leahita: RT @CathyAtTheFund Farmers could be hurt by federal food-safety bill http://bit.ly/6UJJt6 (expand) #food #farm #ag #agchat #health # ...
dairylu: RT @SaveOurWay: Q1 Not afraid of Climate but am of cap& trade. Mother nature has changed for yrs and always will #agchat
RayLinDairy: @fiscaliniCHEESE Could you give a short intro of yourself? #agchat
Porkchop1950: Better late than never. Sorry AgChatters. From Colorful Colorado uncovering from the snow drifts. #agchat
lesliebradshaw: Interested in what the #farm community (on Twitter) thinks about climate change? Search #agchat & Q1.
shaunhaney: Just checking in. Ag blogger and seedsman from #lethbridge #canada . My site is http://www.realagriculture.com #agchat
montserratlj: I think Q1 was about what farmers think of the science behind climate change, if it's "hogwash". #agchat
LizMarrMSRD: Saying hi. Registered Dietitian in Boulder County CO. Food blogger http://www.lizonfood.com. Teach & blog about food/ag policy. #agchat
Zweberfarms: Q2 will organic farms be effected greater because we cannot capture c02 in digester systems #agchat
PeteAlexion: Q2 CO2 reg. is about power and control, not about common sense #agchat
SimpleAsDirt: RT @agchick: Let me B clear: I favor conservation minded, environmentally responsible ag production. Don't favor guilt induced regs #agchat
L_Hawkins: RT @agchick: RT @AgriLawyer: Here is the summary of the #ag provisions of the House cap and trade bill. http://tinyurl.com/ltqq9q (expand) #agchat
billiegirltoo: RT @RayLinDairy: RT @LeslieBradshaw: Interested in what the #farm community (on Twitter) thinks about climate change? Search #agchat & Q1.
mullenmatthew: Hi. I'm an agricultural writer and editor. Checking out #agchat for the first time tonight. #agchat
mealsmatter: Sorry to be so late to the party tonight. MM is nutrition ed/healthy eating org based in California. #agchat
Podchef: @JeffFowle I think the politicos & wonks R afeard we farmers R going 2 capture methane & use it 2 power things & they'll loose out #agchat
cownutritionist: Just landed in Milwaukee. Ag tweeps carry on with the good work. Have a safe and wonderful New Year! #agchat
KyFarmersMatter: Hello #agchat ~Amy ~Sm Cattle farmer, USDA slaughter house owner from Ky just checking in. Whatcha doin'?
Grass_Fed_Beef_: RT @nycUlla: #agchat Q4 I see no reason why ag can not be more sustainable. Lets not forget America was blessed when it comes to land. W ...
JPlovesCOTTON: Wish I was able to participate in #agchat. Quick look at stream is very interesting but I need to hit the road. Alas, no voice 2 tweet :(
yourlocalfoods: online for the end, James, local food & urban ag, Vancouver, BC #agchat
UBetcha_Apparel: Jenny Gambill - Farmer/Rancher Daughter - Entrepreneur and AG kid- Just getting in from chores and lurking tonight. #agchat
naturalart: DITTO I agree!! RT @JeffFowle: Q6 Have to say it...This whole carbon trading idea seems like an international Ponzi scheme. #agchat
ASSECentralFL: RT @NIOSH: ASHCA says agriculture has a fatality rate that is eight times that of the all-industry average http://www.ashca.com/ #agchat ...
billrowekamp: climate has been changing over the last 500,000 years. Why do we feel we must stop it now? #agchat
Niffer72: RT @JeffFowle: Q6 Have to say it...This whole carbon trading idea seems like an international Ponzi scheme. #agchat
BradshawPinot: Q7: Robert Samuelson (Newsweek) noted on this topic: 'People do listen to facts, but experience has more influence than argument.' #agchat
dairydiscovery: just looked at the menu for COP15. looks like organic=sustainable. why r those 2 suddenly interchangeable? #agchat
MakeMoneyFacebk: RT @Zweberfarms @hog_r_us: Yes! to FB #agchat
cowartandmore: Just in time for #agchat afterparty. WOO HOO!
HonestMeat: What is sustainable if it is not organic? How can poisoning people, water, amphibians, etc. be "sustainable"? #agchat
FarmerHaley: sorry to miss #agchat tonight, to many other meetings to get to this time of year!
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